Has anyone else noticed an accelerating shift in the msm/normie Covid narrative?
I mean, I burned a lot of bridges opposing all of this stuff in my professional social circle, I lost/gave up a dream job over it, and up until even a few weeks ago felt entirely isolated.
Now it's like everywhere I look people are waking up to the bullshit.
Is this just me or is anyone sensing a rapidly accelerating shift? Like I mean each day feels significantly different from the last with regard to this stuff...
I tend to agree with John C. Dvorak who has commented on this change for the last couple NA shows. It seems like the FDA approval is not coming and they are winding down the propaganda. I don't even know if FDA approval is possible anymore with the control groups getting vaxxed.
The big machine got a bunch of vaccines into arms, for whatever nefarious purpose they had, and now they are closing up their carnival tent and heading to the next town before the angry mob realizes what happened. Notice both Billy Gates and Fauci are being set up to fall over the last couple weeks. Randlett has been absolutely smoking Fauci, and Bill's fantasy island escapades seem likely to be aired out in relation to this divorce. The Fauci bit will be truly hilarious; normies have been on a wild ride defending Fauci through a maze of contradictory tunnels. Watching them turn on a dime and devour him will be fantastic entertainment. The man deserves every bit of pain he receives as punishment for his AIDs boondoggle.
jh1517 wrote:
Has anyone else noticed an accelerating shift in the msm/normie Covid narrative?I mean, I burned a lot of bridges opposing all of this stuff in my professional social circle, I lost/gave up a dream job over it, and up until even a few weeks ago felt entirely isolated.
Now it's like everywhere I look people are waking up to the bullshit.
Is this just me or is anyone sensing a rapidly accelerating shift? Like I mean each day feels significantly different from the last with regard to this stuff...
I agree with Dingus below - they are turning on Fauci. I have also noticed what you say and thought the timing coinciding with vaccinating children more than a coincidence. People are willing to sacrifice each other, but when it comes to the kids . . . Parents up in arms is a fearsome thing. I don't have kids, but the idea that they're giving them the same dose as adults - hmm, if I had kids, I'd be a little concerned too.
dingus wrote:
I tend to agree with John C. Dvorak who has commented on this change for the last couple NA shows. It seems like the FDA approval is not coming and they are winding down the propaganda. I don't even know if FDA approval is possible anymore with the control groups getting vaxxed.The big machine got a bunch of vaccines into arms, for whatever nefarious purpose they had, and now they are closing up their carnival tent and heading to the next town before the angry mob realizes what happened. Notice both Billy Gates and Fauci are being set up to fall over the last couple weeks. Randlett has been absolutely smoking Fauci, and Bill's fantasy island escapades seem likely to be aired out in relation to this divorce. The Fauci bit will be truly hilarious; normies have been on a wild ride defending Fauci through a maze of contradictory tunnels. Watching them turn on a dime and devour him will be fantastic entertainment. The man deserves every bit of pain he receives as punishment for his AIDs boondoggle.
When all of this started and I was more or less on board with the "two weeks to flatten the curve" I was talking with one of my colleagues who used to work with Fauci at the NIH. When I brought him up, I noticed his facial expression sour and his only words were "Fauci is the most political person I have ever met"...
I don't think Fauci is actually even very popular among the kind of people he will need to protect him from the coming reckoning.
dingus wrote:
I tend to agree with John C. Dvorak who has commented on this change for the last couple NA shows. It seems like the FDA approval is not coming and they are winding down the propaganda. I don't even know if FDA approval is possible anymore with the control groups getting vaxxed.The big machine got a bunch of vaccines into arms, for whatever nefarious purpose they had, and now they are closing up their carnival tent and heading to the next town before the angry mob realizes what happened. Notice both Billy Gates and Fauci are being set up to fall over the last couple weeks. Randlett has been absolutely smoking Fauci, and Bill's fantasy island escapades seem likely to be aired out in relation to this divorce. The Fauci bit will be truly hilarious; normies have been on a wild ride defending Fauci through a maze of contradictory tunnels. Watching them turn on a dime and devour him will be fantastic entertainment. The man deserves every bit of pain he receives as punishment for his AIDs boondoggle.
I think this is the first vaccine that has ever had a control group. And the only reason for the existence of this one is because Del Bigtree & ICAN took them to court and forced the requirement on them. I think the FDA will be giving its approval. Hope I’m wrong.
sofahkingfoxy wrote:
I think this is the first vaccine that has ever had a control group. And the only reason for the existence of this one is because Del Bigtree & ICAN took them to court and forced the requirement on them. I think the FDA will be giving its approval. Hope I’m wrong.
Certainly not true. To my knowledge every vaccine approved to date has required clinical trials. The only reason the COVID situation was different was that the mass rollout under the emergency authorization WAS the clinical trial and hence the control group. But without a control group there is no trial. It would be pretty ridiculous to simply waive clinical trials.
The FDA approval process is perfunctory at this point, at least for adults. I hold out hope they'll find their conscience and not push it on kids but I doubt it.
The vaccine manufacturers and the paid investigators often try to argue against the need for a placebo control group - in my humble experience. The argument they use is: It would be unethical to withhold the vaccine when there is no effective treatment or other approved vaccine for the indication. For the COVID vaccines, they have a control group, but I believe they ultimately decided to give the controls the vaccine, which effectively removes any data they might obtain regarding long term toxicity, chronic issues, and mutagenicity. The only hope for long-term safety data will come from religious exemptions and holdouts.
Also, I have witnessed them trying to argue that they don't need placebo controls when there are approved vaccines for the same indication, even though the one they are testing is new or different than the approved ones. I disagree with this practice. If a drug company for an oral formulation drug, for example, were to try this, FDA would make them have a control arm. Why do the vaccine manufacturers get away with more? I don't know. They do get a pass more often though, because vaccines are considered to make less money for the pharmaceutical companies, and they have to be incentivized with liability and other waivers to develop the vaccines. For example, a few years back, everyone was trying to figure out why Moderna's stock was valued so high, when everything in their pipeline was vaccine development. That's another topic though. And, yes, I often argue against myself.
Here is an interesting article on placebo use in vaccine trials: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4157320/
I'd just like to say how pleased I am to find this forum and all the people discussing these issues rationally and intelligently. People ought to be able to discuss vaccine viewpoints, but holy hell, if I haven't found two sides so brainwashed and polarized, that discussion is impossible. It's unfortunate, because we can't address corruption if both sides spend all their time denying the truth, devaluing the experiences of others, discrediting the authority of the opposition, dismissing or ignoring opposition, and dividing and conquering. The five dimensions of deception. Anyway, I appreciate you. Mercury stations retro today - so I'm trying really hard not to put my foot square in my mouth round.
Another piece of the puzzle just appeared.
To recap: Moderna and DARPA have been developing a secret vaccine since 2016 (covered in previous post). They developed many other vaccines concurrently (ebola, Zika, etc), but for some reason, DARPA didn't want anyone to know about one of the vaccines in development.
According to a new article, the Chinese discovered a new deadlier version of the Corona Virus in 2012, that bat guano miners in Yunnan province contracted. The symptoms described match the symptoms of the current COVID-19. They kept the virus secret and kept samples at the Wuhan Institute, even going so far as to change the name of the virus. In 2016, a student who worked with a professor of China's version of CDC published a paper about the 2012 virus they found. https://www.independentsciencenews.org/commentaries/a-chinese-phd-thesis-sheds-important-new-light-on-the-origin-of-the-covid-19-coronavirus/
The State Department, NIAID, etc. started funding the Wuhan Lab to generally study corona viruses before 2016, then started to fund gain of function research. In 2014, Obama decided to stop gain of function research, because it's too dangerous. Apparently, Fauci didn't like being told what to do and convened a secret panel to reinstate funding to Wuhan Institute for gain of function research at the time of the administration change winter 2016/2017.
https://www.independentsciencenews.org/commentaries/an-interview-with-richard-ebright-anthony-fauci-francis-collins-systematically-thwarted/
Within six months of the Chinese thesis paper coming out (June 2016) about the virus they collected in 2012, the US was in development with Moderna to create a secret vaccine.
At the start of the pandemic, Moderna waited for Wuhan Institute to provide the sequence to finalize the vaccine they were working on, instead of sequencing it themselves (takes three days to 1 week). That's trusting of them. I feel much better now about getting injected with genetic code provided by the Wuhan Institute. The Pasteur Institute sequenced the virus second, I think. Stanford sequenced the vaccines. I'd really love to know if there are discrepancies. I hope someone does a comparison.
Both Daszak's group and Moderna are in trouble for not disclosing federal funding.
https://www.independentsciencenews.org/news/peter-daszaks-ecohealth-alliance-has-hidden-almost-40-million-in-pentagon-funding/
https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2020/08/28/moderna-covid19-vaccine-coronavirus-patents-darpa/
Military Industrial Complex strikes again! If I were a physician or first responder, I'd be just about ready to stage a walk out. If this thing leaked from a lab, and our government was involved, I'd feel really thrown under the bus right now.
jdaneway wrote:
Military Industrial Complex strikes again! If I were a physician or first responder, I'd be just about ready to stage a walk out. If this thing leaked from a lab, and our government was involved, I'd feel really thrown under the bus right now.
As a medical researcher who left the field in disgust, this is spot on. "Thrown under the bus". All the glib self satisfied jokes about how much it was driven by Big Pharma, grant monkeys, how peer-review was bullshit, all turned out to be worse than we joked when it actually mattered.
Speaking of "thrown under the bus": that's what happened to Cuomo, and now Fauci and Gates. Except there IS no bus and no repercussions - it's all media circus. I know this is some sort of sophisticated propaganda tactic that I can't recall the name of. Something to appease the masses and make us all *think* that there is some sort of retribution while they can continue going about their dirty deeds a little more under the radar.
orchid20 wrote:
Speaking of "thrown under the bus": that's what happened to Cuomo, and now Fauci and Gates. Except there IS no bus and no repercussions - it's all media circus. I know this is some sort of sophisticated propaganda tactic that I can't recall the name of. Something to appease the masses and make us all *think* that there is some sort of retribution while they can continue going about their dirty deeds a little more under the radar.
I don’t know about that. I think Cuomo may skate, but Bill and Fauci are heading for that Epstein treatment IMO.
dingus wrote:
I don’t know about that. I think Cuomo may skate, but Bill and Fauci are heading for that Epstein treatment IMO.
I think they'll keep quiet, so they'll just be memory holed and disappear from public.
dingus wrote:
Certainly not true. To my knowledge every vaccine approved to date has required clinical trials. The only reason the COVID situation was different was that the mass rollout under the emergency authorization WAS the clinical trial and hence the control group. But without a control group there is no trial. It would be pretty ridiculous to simply waive clinical trials.
You’re absolutely right about all vaccine clinical trials having a control group within the trial. I was making what I thought to be a safe assumption that the term "control group" is synonymous with "placebo group". At least in the world of vaccine science this isn’t so. However, it’s my understanding that Del Bigtree went to court and the court ordered the vaccine companies to include a placebo group for their Covid vaccine trials. I do recall seeing Fauci making a public to do about the placebo groups as if it was done voluntarily.
I went back to my source, The Highwire, where I recall hearing Del say there’s never been a control group. Perhaps he said placebo? This time I went to his ICAN site & found a white paper that goes in-depth about the control groups. There it states the control groups used in vaccine trials weren’t given a placebo. They were given a previously approved vaccine. I have to think this isn’t considered a valid control group in the world of clinical trials! Here’s the link to that white paper; see Section II:
https://www.icandecide.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/VaccineSafety-Version-1.0-October-2-2017-1.pdf
In your reply to me you switched from the original post that talked about control groups to saying they all had clinical trials (yes, I don’t question clinical trials). I only point out the discrepancy to avoid confusion, not to be contentious. This discussion is merely a side point which I certainly don’t want to further distract from your main topic. I stand corrected and I’m glad I brought it up because you lead me to a better understanding.
Cheers!
