i'm taking a page from the celebrity playbook announcing leaving X/twitter... in announcing i'm leaving the conspiracy community.
my plus subscription ends in march and i will not be renewing. i just cant finically support a community that is not taking a victory lap in light of the MAGA/MAHA coalition victory in nov. and the elevation of Bobby Kennedy to HHS secretary... putting him over a big enemy of ours- the CDC. no offense to greg but i don't see much leadership in regards to facilitating celebration energy. yes, one instagram post is great but it just seems like business as usual over here... and i feel so strongly that it is not business as usual i just have to speak my mind about it.
Bobby Kennedy was a guest on this show and i see almost no celebration. thats just lame and gross to me. sorry not sorry.
the conspiracy community did not have an imaginative off ramp for actually winning, for actually making a difference. no one imagined it because no one thought it possible. instead, most in this space just like being outsiders and the aesthetics of being 'edgy' and 'different'.
they don't really care or actually think these ideas can save humanity. no, the are content with the pseudo intellectual extreme black pill mentality that is a short cut for true intellectual thinking.
the community left no space for celebration, no place for 'wow we actually helped put this guy in a position of power to actually change things'.
nope, just weird black pill flat earth madness.
i'm withdrawing from the community egregore because i think its just too low vibration and mentally unstable. (i've been there myself so i know what that looks like).
Greg, take a victory lap man. don't let these low vibration freaks throw you off. you had bobby kennedy on your show when we were under attack by the CDC, and now (god willing with recess appointments) he is their boss!
the fact that the community is missing the fact we are in a historical moment for the US and one of our own (bobby k) is in a position of power and missing the fact that this is an extremely good thing! is just too low vibration and fucking lame for me to bear
i think in my place you are going to have the blue anon folks rushing in to take my place. so have fun with them. mad ranting and ravings about elon musk turning us into a borg cube, trump is a russian agent, kennedy is a double secret 12-d chess move by the deep state.
if bobby being in a position of power isn't cause for celebration then you will never have cause for celebration. so, then what is the point of all this interest and research? i know the answer, its because of the aesthetics of the outsider, not actually changing the world. i believe these ideas can change the world and so did bobby kennedy... i wasn't here to be weird and different. i was here to change the world.
yes, i know all the arguments. yes ive read w. webb's stuff. yes yes yes. i'm aware of all that yet i'm still hopeful. call me names all you want. i simply don't care and people black pilled in this moment, i think are, just fucking lame.
i also predict the community will start doing the opposite of what bobby kennedy says now that he is in a position of official power. i predict conspiracy folks putting fluoride in their water, saying that chem trails are actually good for us, putting obscure chemicals in their foods after bobby bans them.
the good guys winning has broken the brain of the conspiracy community. and i'm not here for it.
so, i'll catch yall on the flip flop and i'll see you on musk's great borg cube in the sky.
If you have not figured out both sides are puppets, you have not been listening to THC very well 🙂
Good luck on your journey!
Hey, I get where you're coming from, and it's clear you're passionate about actually making a difference, not just sitting in a constant state of skepticism or negativity. That’s admirable, but maybe don’t lose all hope in the community just yet.
Sometimes, people get so used to fighting battles that they forget to celebrate wins—especially in a space like this, where the default is questioning everything. That doesn’t mean everyone in the community is blind to the big picture or incapable of growth. It might just take some people longer to adjust to a “victory” mindset because they're used to being in opposition.
Your voice clearly carries weight, and your ability to challenge the norms of the community is part of what makes it valuable. Instead of stepping away, maybe your perspective could help shape a more balanced and constructive culture—one that embraces hope and celebrates milestones while still keeping a critical eye.
If you do decide to leave, though, don’t see it as the end of your journey in making a difference. Your belief in change and progress can be just as impactful outside this specific community. I'm with you on being happy about recent events but I'm reserving any celebration for now until I see actual change rather than political promises. I agree this is different than before, I'm a fan of Bobby, but I also know the head of the snake is still on the loose. Regardless, what is being said or done from the group, I'm here for the information. Greg's guests continue to bring valuable information to the table, and that is the main reason I'm here.
Best of luck to you.
@flux thanks for your thoughts. i only just now saw them...i'm not leaving THC but i def. don't consider myself a 'consp. theorist' anymore... i view myself as a historian that is interested in mystery.
can you imagine if the 'consp. community' was around during the revolutionary war... it would be like 'george washington is a free mason, this is all evil'... and yes, i know that george washington squashed the whisky rebellion and i even would have been an anti-federalist, not for the constitution (a strong fed gov.)
but still can say it was a good thing the Americans won their independence.
the consp. comm. would do well to study history more
Well, conspiracy community does not equal THC. That's the main distinction I would want to make. I am personally very optimistic about RFK. Has that not been obvious? I just don't think the job will be easy, and I'm waiting to see how it goes before I get too excited.
Have you considered that you're being manipulated into your current "victory lap?" I think you should, just to manage your own expectations and possibly, disappointment. Maybe the latest show with Gordon will help.
I can't control the "conspiracy community' but we talk about solutions all the time. Solutions are personal and local, not top-down and centralized.
@thecarlwood Check out my video on YouTube called "Rogan, Trump and the Galveston Gangsters"
Connects Mafia, CIA, Rogan, Alex Jones, and Trump. Trump is the false light. I'm interviewing with Derick Broze on this subject soon.
i just saw this.. for some reason it was only showing responses from jan 2025 and that is why i responded this month.
it has been obvious that you are optimistic about bobby, in so far as you posted something on insta. that was congratulating him. however, i haven't seen any shows that look at the Trump win a positive manner. it has all been through a negative lens. even the one journalist you had on the show considered the ass. attempt was fake. i'm sorry, that is flat earth non sense. blood packets? come on yall....
yes i have considered i'm being manipulated in my current victory lap. i have considered all angels regarding trump since 2018... i've spent a considerable amount of time considering them, just ask my wife, lol.... also, my current book is evidence enough i have a level of intelligence in this space that others lack (not that there is anything wrong with that) paul levy said my book was 'destined to be a classic' and george knapp said 'every page packs a punch'. also, i'm the only occultist that i know of who has integrated downard's theories into a magical praxis and used it to break the spell cast over the nation in the killing of the king ritual in 63 (see the trine day round tables for example)... so i know my stuff and only point this out to help you know that you aren't just talking to a newbie
meaning, i'm not some johnny come lately in this game... and i'm not a 'trumper'... i mean i am now, hahahah ... previously i was one of those third party people who has pictures with bob barr (libertarian candidate in 2008) and a picture with me and jill stein. ive been into politics since age 16, when i was a card carrying member of the libertarian party (i never identified with the red or blue in america, which i think allows me a perspective that others lack) in the early 90s.
also, i'm not looking for any notes on how to manage my psychological reactions to the happenings of the now but i appreciate the helpful spirit....
however, have -you- considered the fact that you aren't taking a 'victory lap'... because you have been manipulated into your current mindset? perhaps the cyrptocracy has so infested you with abulia (an absence of willpower or an inability to act decisively)
.as hoffman explains in twilight language..that you see no cause for celebration when there is one? if that were the case then that would indeed be some strong black magick by the cryptocracy... people in this space seem to imply they are all powerful but not all powerful enough to cause the people who could stop them from celebrating when they meet a defeat on the battle field?
i never said you could control the consp. community but you have a lot of power over it, i mean... bobby k was on your show. you have tremendous reach and influence. you're a king maker, lets call a spade a spade.
here is the other thing i have seen of people in the consp. community viz a viz the trump is a bad guy (double secret 6D deep state chess meme)... the constant moving of the goal posts
in the summer i told people in the community they rumor that tulsi g and bobby k would join his team
i was told: trump would never do that, he is deep state you are duped.
then trump announced he was part of their team and then...
i was told: that is stupid trump is just doing that to get elected.
then trump announced tulsi would head all of intel in america and bobby would be in charge of all health depts
i was told: that doesn't matter because real change can never happen the deep state will never allow it
i told people in the community that trump was not a zionist and would not just do what ever those folks say and would work to bring peace...
i was told: you are stupid he is a zionist he is just going to do their bidding
and now the cease fire deal has occurred thanks to him and people in the community say its all a lie and a double cross deep state 6D chess move.
the fact that nobody in the community addresses when they were wrong about trump leads me to believe that i'm the one who has broken free of the cryptocracy black mojo and not the other way around.
again, as i have said since 2018... if i'm proven wrong i will of course admit it... but we are in a curious place where people in the community seem to be unconsciously willing that trump is deep state so they are proven right... black magick indeed.
whoa... are you really saying that bobby k is a deep state bad guy and all of my cause for celebration is wrong because he had some fast food?
yeah, wow, i'm really at a loss for words here... that's the gotcha moment greg? damn, i mean i really want to appear on your show to promote my book that paul levy said was 'destined to be a classic' and promote my work with downardian magick that broke the spell cast on the american psyche in the killing of the king ritual (see trine day round tables)... and i want to kiss up to you to achieve that end.
but damn, posting this pic as 'evidence' is really really dumb. holy shit man, are you OK? like, i'm seriously asking....
that picture was funny. i think what a lot of people are missing in this community is the humor aspect to the trump phenom.
my expectations may not be met... as i have said in my last response... but a funny photo with fast food has no bearing at all on that reality. man, you haven't gone flat earth have you?
My honest reaction to Greg's post-election commentary has been "wow I hope he doesn't lose liberal plus members over his obvious enthusiasm for the Trump win". Even Gordon seemed cautiously optimistic about Trump's possibilities! I definitely did NOT see a MAGA blowback possibility. I think OP needs to just chill a bit and revisit the renewal decision in a few months.
@dingus I think I've been fairly measured compared to other colleagues. Excited about a fw things, deeply worried about a few others. A Trump win is just a lot more random, and with that comes at least some exciting outsiders being brought in. Seems like I can't win in this position. Too enthusiastic for some, not enough for others. I'm trying here!
@thecarlwood you have been fairly measured, I would agree. It just seems more common for liberals to demand a hard line that Trump is 100% evil and you cannot agree with him on anything. It seems weird for a MAGA guy to turn around and apply that standard, but maybe this is the new normal.
@dingus You seem to keep bringing up "liberals" in the context of me. To clarify, I consider myself closest to a Libertarian, but no label gets it exactly right. I also think your biggest complains are with progressives rather than classical liberals, but good luck out there!
@thecarlwood Uh what? When was the last time I brought up "liberals" in context of you? The last time was probably when I was all butthurt about my home town being burned down back in 2020. And that was the only time I can remember. This post wasn't saying you were of any political persuasion, it was a general observation that "liberals" (in the popular American context ie progressive Democrats) are more prone to sweeping generalizations about how anything related to Trump is evil, vs conservatives that don't tend to demonize the opposition so universally. My comment was that the OP, Mr. MAGA, was applying the same sweeping generalization that anyone not 100% in Trump's camp cannot be trusted. I reiterate, you have been fairly measured in your commentary about the latest election. Not sure why I am in your crosshairs here.
@dingus Not in any crosshairs, just talking. My phone's formatting made it look like you were OP. Honest mistake. I was mentally replying to both comments as if they come from the same person. Now about what happened in 2020? Sorry you lost your home, that's terrible.
@thecarlwood Ah makes sense! No I didn't lose my home, I used to live in Minneapolis where the Floyd riot happened. I was one of those hotheads giving you flack for the guest you had on at that time. I was pretty inflammatory about it as well, so please accept my mea culpa. I believe I said I was going to cancel my plus membership over it like all the fools do 🙂 But I ended up just keeping it around and what do you know, one guest I had an issue with didn't really matter in the long run. Every time I see these guys post about canceling their membership over whatever butthurt they are going through I think back to when I was that guy. Based on my own experience, if you don't like a guest, don't cancel your membership, just wait for the next guest!!
it appears due to high tensions and formatting issues that i'm being attributed to having said things that i haven't said... so to be clear.
in nov. i made a post with tongue in my cheek to get convo stimulated (no one got the joke that i was doing what libtard celebrities were doing on X?)
in jan i was finally notified that there were responses to the thread and that is when i responded...
again for clarity, my stance is-
-the fact that bobby k, who was on this show during the c0vid years, is now poised to be in charge of HHS in america, is not being *wildly* celebrated here (and by you, no offense) seems weird AF to me. it appears its a symptom of alchemical processing as talked about in hoffman's twilight language.
-trump is such a disrupter that he has 'broken' the republican party, democrat party, and now the consp. community. ive been a part of this community since the early 90s. i find this fact pretty amusing and sad at the same time.
-i personally became political conscious in the early 90s as a libertarian party supporter, at the age of 16. i have taken pics with bob barr (lib. 2008 candidate) and jill stein. which shows i' have been to rallies for third party candidates. so attempts to label me as 'mr. maga' are very funny to me...
-the goal posts for trump keep being moved by people in the community, (from he will never give bobby k a position of power to bobby k is now sus) and it seems there is an unconscious desire that trump is a deep state 6D chess move... nobody likes to be proven wrong. this is a very human psychological response. i'm open to being proved wrong, i will be sad of course, but ive been sad before, lol... so far i have seen no one in the consp. community admitting when they were wrong about trump. i'll admit when i'm wrong but so far nobody has given me the same courtesy. the fact that they havent, to me, is evidence of alchemical processing.
-i'm not a johnny come lately to this material, i'm the author of a book on these subjects that paul levy said was 'destined to be a classic' and george knapp said 'every page packs a punch'.... i'm also doing the most cutting edge work with the downard material of anyone alive (see the trine day round tables). i'm not a newbie.
-i'm not a pollyanna. i'm way down the rabbit hole and have been told things by people in a position to know that prove even the most crazy consp. theories. (islands, ultra rich, secret space programs, battle between good and evil, secret tech, under ground bases, control over economies, etc) its a small world. i think meeting such people has given me a perspective that others lack. its evil as fuck but not black and white. as the grateful dead said 'its even worse than it appears, but its all right'....
-i don't think trump is perfect but is a net positive historically speaking. i think trump is akin to george washington (i would have been against washington's putting down the whiskey rebellion and against the forming of constitution and strong fed gov. what was called an anti-federalist at the time) but still think he is a net positive historical figure... same with lincoln. (just dig a little about some of the bad with what lincoln did)... same with ataturk in turkey. i believe individuals such as washington, trump, lincoln, ataturk are what create sea changes for good in the world. yes, we can do a deep dive into those historical figures and see things that are very bad indeed but it doesn't take away from the net positive.
-i think psychic driving of 'trump is bad' has infected most people in the consp. community so they are not able to think clearly about his role as a historical figure and the net positive he brings to the world, just like washington and lincoln.
i have not said this - "My comment was that the OP, Mr. MAGA, was applying the same sweeping generalization that anyone not 100% in Trump's camp cannot be trusted. "
can you find where i exactly said that in my writing?
man, yall really hate trump. lol. i went to great pains in my OP to point out i was a maha guy and happy that bobby was in charge of the people who were going to put us in camps during c0vid.
i think people are forgetting just how close the non j@bers were to being completely destroyed... now the public enemy number one is in charge of the people who were going to put us in camps, like yall... hello, is any one home?
i highlighted how i was happy bobby k is poised to be in a position of power and i'm mr. maga now ( i mean i am but that is besides the point, haahha)
the reason you have the response to trump that you do is because of psychic driving... its a mind control tecnique.
what has trump done that you hate so much? i'm seriously asking. give me 5 instances of things that cause you to be so adverse to him? ill give you the first... 1. abortion
@frater222 I haven't actually stated an opinion on Trump here, but happy to oblige. I was thoroughly tickled when he won in 2016. As a Constitutional Libertarian he doesn't appeal to me based on his rhetoric, but I told my wife the day before that election if Hilldog was elected we would be in a war with Syria and/or Russia within a month of her presidency. Biden sure confirmed my prediction.
What I like(d) about Trump:
- No new wars. Remarkably adept at avoiding deep state traps to get him into wars. I loved when he told Assad he was going to bomb the airbase so he could remove all the forces. He pleased the deep state with the strike while maintaining a good relationship with Assad.
- Barely anything got done in congress. Most MAGA folks see this as a downside, but as a libertarian it was great
What I didn't like:
- VAX VAX VAX. Operation warpspeed was a travesty and he handed the entire government to the medical establishment
- Gave Blackrock control of the fed. This was entirely unreported on but Trump effectively merged the treasury, Fed, and Blackrock to "save" the stock market after the crash. Mnuchin gave Blackrock infinite funding at 0% interest to buy securities on behalf of the Fed and treasury, all held for profit by Blackrock. One of the least talked about but most impactful things to happen in US financial history, far more impactful than TARP.
- Bumpstock ban and support of red flag laws. Inexcusable breach of second amendment. "Take the guns first and verify later" what a load a crap.
- Free money for everyone. Whether it was direct handouts to minorities, COVID stimulus, or an insanely progressive tax plan, Trump turned on the money printer that is largely responsible for the inflation we have today
- SCOTUS protection of past POTUS actions. Because of Trump's legal cases we are now assured to never get justice for Benghazi or Ambassador Stevens. The entire Obama admin from Holder to Hilldog to Obama himself are protected by SCOTUS ruling
That's five right? I didn't even touch on his efforts to pave the way for Israel to rebuild the Third Temple... Or his failure to pardon the J6 patriots...
As for my feelings about the current Trump admin, I am very troubled. Anti Semitism will be a Federal crime. Probable war with Iran and maybe China. End of the debt ceiling. Infinite H1B visas. None of this is good.
Back in 2020 my biggest question was this; why didn't trump do anything to stop the obvious election fraud he himself predicted? It is as if he WANTED Biden to win. The same question is in my mind today. The DNC knew that they could rig this election with impunity, had the same ballot harvesting tools available, but declined to cheat. Why?? It is almost like the WANTED Trump to win. This whole thing has me highly skeptical.
ok cool. both of us have a more nuanced view than the other thought... i thought you just had simple TDS and i guess you thought i was a typical maga dude... i'm guessing you are seeing that i'm not with my posts. but again, i have intellectually honesty... something that is in short supply these days.
for example, you put words in my mouth in this thread...
you said i said:
"My comment was that the OP, Mr. MAGA, was applying the same sweeping generalization that anyone not 100% in Trump's camp cannot be trusted. "
i literally did not say that... can you retract this statement or find where i have said "that anyone not 100% in Trump's camp cannot be trusted."?
although, i do love the mr. maga moniker. hahah
i have gone through great pains to give my views in this thread, seems fair that you would read them and actually respond to what i said.
ok, ill break down what you said-
"I told my wife the day before that election if Hilldog was elected we would be in a war with Syria and/or Russia within a month of her presidency. Biden sure confirmed my prediction.
What I like(d) about Trump:
- No new wars. Remarkably adept at avoiding deep state traps to get him into wars."
The fact that trump has done this and this fact alone is not worthy of our celebration he is back in power (god willing) is mind blowing to me. think about what you said "No new wars. Remarkably adept at avoiding deep state traps to get him into wars" ... how am i not supposed to celebrate this? like, man, you had me at no new wars and "remarkably adept at avoiding deep state traps to get him into wars"
why is the bar so high with supporting someone you yourself say is avoiding deep state traps? you are a tough crowd man... lol
you said-
"Barely anything got done in congress. Most MAGA folks see this as a downside, but as a libertarian it was great"
100% agree... i'm not "most maga folks" which i close reading of my posts would clearly show.
you said-
"VAX VAX VAX. Operation warpspeed was a travesty and he handed the entire government to the medical establishment"
100% agree but again... he has bobby k poised to be in charge of HHS... so, again... why is this not cause for celebration. bobby k was public enemy number one during c0vid and now he is in charge of (god willing) the folks that made him public enemy number one.
you said-
"Gave Blackrock control of the fed."
man, talk about the head of the snake... the fed is the final boss of this whole thing.
see,
"When asked if he'd step down if Trump requested it, Powell responded with a one-word answer: "No."
Powell's insistence that he'll remain in his role comes after Trump aired grievances about the Fed's decision-making during his first presidency and, more recently, on the campaign trial. Trump, who has accused Powell of being "political," also told Bloomberg Businessweek this summer he would let the economist serve out his term, "especially if I thought he was doing the right thing."
Yet Trump has also said he thinks the U.S. president should have more influence on Fed decisions."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fed-chair-jerome-powell-wont-resign-if-asked-by-trump/
i just think trump is not deep state and not a super human god. he is pushing back against the fed and the chairman is saying he wouldn't step down if asked.
trump is not a magician... what is he supposed to do to 'solve' the battle with the final boss?
im seriously asking... also, you seem like a smart person, if you have a solution you might think about reaching out to someone in his team. i'm being serious.
you said:
"Bumpstock ban and support of red flag laws. Inexcusable breach of second amendment. "Take the guns first and verify later" what a load a crap." and "Free money for everyone. "
100% agree. but again... pushing back against the final boss (the fed) and avoiding deep state traps for eternal wars trump this in IMO, pun intended.
you said:
"SCOTUS protection of past POTUS actions. Because of Trump's legal cases we are now assured to never get justice for Benghazi or Ambassador Stevens. The entire Obama admin from Holder to Hilldog to Obama himself are protected by SCOTUS ruling"
so because trump had lawfare against him it is his fault?
you said:
That's five right? I didn't even touch on his efforts to pave the way for Israel to rebuild the Third Temple... Or his failure to pardon the J6 patriots...
how was he to pardon J6 folks when jan 6 happened on 2020 and he left office on jan. 20, 2020? i'm seriously asking. if he doesn't pardon them when he is prez this time i'll agree with you. i will literally say you were right and i was wrong. if he pardons them this term will you say that to me?
it is the lack of intellectually honesty around trump is bad that has me so suspicious of attacks against him. i really think people have just been brain washed to have a negative reaction against him. psychic driving. i used to be a trump hater myself. it took me a long time to come to these views.
regarding 'our greatest ally'... my hope is that trump truly is america first and the zionist rhetoric is just that, rhetoric. america is, IMO, an occupied country of that country. so, he is a bit of a pickle viz a viz how to stop this influence. i mean, massey (repub) spoke out against their influence on tucker and then his wife mysteriously died. say trump really did want to end this nefarious influence and say this country really was having so much influence on america that we are essentially an occupied country... then what would you have him do?
you seem like a smart guy... do you really think the smart play would be for trump to say this out loud in a press conference? i think people forget that politicians have public and private points of view. we learned this from hilldog.
and need i mention the cease fire agreement he negotiated? folks in this comm. told me privately that he would never do such a thing and now that it is done i'm told its all a double secret deep state 6D chess move. again, as i have said in this thread. the goal posts keep getting moved with my boy donny T.
but to speak to your concerns about trumps first term. listen to what bobby k said in his meeting with him and what trumps kids have said about the first term and what trump himself has said... it appears based on what they said that they were surprised by the level of corruption they face. again, trump is just a guy that isn't part of the mil. industrial complex / deep state / ep. island faction... he isn't a god or a saint. he isn't all knowing. he has to learn things just like the next person. but he and his family has clearly said they were shocked with how corrupt it was and it was beyond belief to them. also, bobby k said that trump told him this and bobby k said that is why he and tulsi are heading the transition team.
you said-
As for my feelings about the current Trump admin, I am very troubled. Anti Semitism will be a Federal crime. Probable war with Iran and maybe China. End of the debt ceiling. Infinite H1B visas. None of this is good.
i actually am very pro h1b visas so we will agree to disagree on that. but you already have us in wars with iran and china. of course if that happens i'll will be the first to say it was bad. .. but say my boy keeps us out of these wars will you admit trump was good? will the goal posts move even more?
for my thoughts on the anti sem. thing being a fed. crime see my above comment.
you said-
Back in 2020 my biggest question was this; why didn't trump do anything to stop the obvious election fraud he himself predicted? It is as if he WANTED Biden to win. The same question is in my mind today. The DNC knew that they could rig this election with impunity, had the same ballot harvesting tools available, but declined to cheat. Why?? It is almost like the WANTED Trump to win. This whole thing has me highly skeptical.
it seemed he tried too hard to stop the fraud from my point of view. it almost made him ineligible to get elected this time. i saw him trying so hard was a strategic failure. but my boy has a way of making his mistakes work out for him... so i just went with it.
saying he wanted biden to win sounds flat earthy to me, don't know any other way to say it. the critique is he is a egotistical guy but he wanted biden to win? sorry that just seems illogical.
and the idea that the DNC can rig with impunity sounds flat earthy to me as well... the DNC is not an all powerful organization. and they were essentially caught stealing the election last time... i mean did you see 200 mules? they weren't trying to hid it. but i think trump made enough noise and enough investigation was done into it that it made it harder to pull off a second time. also, one good thing about the american system is how diffuse it is with voting. percents, counties, the electoral college... i'm currently in a country where it is just popular vote so if you stuff enough ballots in one area then the person becomes prez. its not like thatin america.
also, i'm sure they cheated this time. id imagine he won by an even larger margin than we know. i mean, didn't harris only win in the states where there is no voting id laws? i think any state that doens't have voter id laws you can just assume large scale industrial cheating is occuring.
wanting trump to win by spending a billion dollars? sorry, again this sounds flat earthy...
as otto rank said, evil is at its core stupid. the deep state and their minions are evil but at their core they are stupid. they wanted to win but trump is a historical figure that, best i can figure, something truley special is happening around him.
something we only see in historical figures like washington, lincoln, ataturk... again, figures like this aren't perfect. for example lincoln took almost dictatorial powers to win the war and preserve the union, washington suppressed the whiskey rebellion. (as i have said in other posts in this thread that you seem to have not bothered to read, i wouldn't have even been for the forming of the constitution during washingtons time as i would have been an anti- federalist.)
however, these figures are net positives and to me its silly to quibble over some of the stuff trump has done and is doing in the face of how history unfolds and how historic figures change history for the better... and extra silly in the face of the fact he has, in your own words... started "No new wars. Remarkably adept at avoiding deep state traps to get him into wars."
and again, the main point of my OP... put the guy who was public enemy number 1 during the c0vid years in charge (god willing) of the very people who sought to put us in camps for not taking the j@b and who was a guest on this show...
wow, talk about a tough crowd... lol
@frater222 You literally started your OP by saying you would cancel your plus subscription because Greg didn't celebrate hard enough. You are trying to walk that back now as some sort of joke or conversation starter, but it certainly didn't and still doesn't read that way.
so you are not going to address anything i have said? wow. i took the time to engage in literally every point you made, i took great pains to address the points i agree with and pointed out where i disagree. wow. but no detailed response from you to address my points.... talk about intellectual dishonesty.
i think the emotional intensity is just so high with anything to do with trump (due the the cryptocracy psychic driving of 'orange man bad' for a decade) that folks are just not going to be able to discuss it. its pretty wild when you think of it that way...
and you still will not retract when you said i said-
"My comment was that the OP, Mr. MAGA, was applying the same sweeping generalization that anyone not 100% in Trump's camp cannot be trusted. "
i said in the OP...
"my plus subscription ends in march and i will not be renewing. i just cant finically support a community that is not taking a victory lap in light of the MAGA/MAHA coalition victory in nov. and the elevation of Bobby Kennedy to HHS secretary... putting him over a big enemy of ours- the CDC. no offense to greg but i don't see much leadership in regards to facilitating celebration energy. yes, one instagram post is great but it just seems like business as usual over here... and i feel so strongly that it is not business as usual i just have to speak my mind about it. "
where did i apply a "sweeping generalization that anyone not 100% in Trump's camp cannot be trusted. "
giving someone my hard earned money because i don't agree with them on a very important and historical issue is not me saying nobody not in trumps camp cannot be trusted. you know, typically people give subscriptions to folks like THC when they agree with them on a lof of issues that are very personal to them. the whole model is based on this approach.
you are aware of that correct? i know youre not going to engage with me and honestly answer this question or any of my points...i know how the internet works... lol
i really think people's brains have been fried with all of the relentless psychic driving and dare i say it... i think there is some psychotronic shit going on in the US. i feel 'weird' when i'm there and don't feel it out of the country... i was saying this before the weird fog rolled in. 20 years ago, a friend of mine had a friend of his get zapped by exotic weaponry over the phone due to some of their reporting. made the dudes hair fall out. i seriously wonder if folks minds are being messed with on a psychotronic level... that or all the j@b shedding... the country i reside in most of the year has less j@bed folks floating around.
i wish i was kidding in this point and i hope i'm wrong.
yes, i wrote the OP tongue firmly in my cheek. ive done standup comedy since 2011 and have written three comedic screen plays. when i made the OP i had a sly smile on my face. just as with most of my writing... even in my non fiction book, which paul levy said was 'destined to be a classic' and george knapp said 'every page packs a punch' (i may have said nory before, i get the coast to coast george's confused), i very clearly said i write with my tongue pressed firmly in my cheek. so i have a long history of comedic writing...
but i guess you know for sure i was just fuming when i wrote the OP, lol.
re: the ironic part in me saying in the OP that i was leaving and canceling... remember when all the celebrities were leaving twitter after my boy won? the irony is to announce you were leaving and not just leaving out right. you do know i can just cancel my subscription and not notify anybody right?
if i cancel my subscription you will not know if i have done so....
you see, humor is a combo of some serious points and some not so serious points. some hyperbole, and some earnestness. i think one reason folks just can't get on the trump train is they are missing his humorous approach. what is that saying about f-em if they can't take a joke???
but to be real, i was thinking of canceling my subscription before my boy won... and the main reason i kept it is because i support greg in general. but i do find my self listening less and less these days. one thing that drew me back in was the episode with hoffman. i honestly haven't decided if i will continue with the plus plan or not. but i probably will for at least a year more...
would i have gotten the interest in the post if i had been mild in my OP? of course you won't answer this question.... so why did i ask?.... you see, more tongue and cheek writing....
...there is almost no action on this forum. lets be honest. i've been here for three years and this is the most convo i have seen in those three years. and look at my post history. i have tried very earnestly to get a convo started over the years. one reason i joined was for the community forum. but nobody seems to use it. another reason i have considered not remaining a plus member...
if anything i've done a favor to the show in getting a spirited debate going in the forums... it galvanizing the TDS folks here (which is most) in banding together and laughing and ridiculing me (while ignoring every very sincere and detailed point i make)
in any case i still stand firm in my negative view of this community viz a viz TDS ... and your refusal to have an intellectually honest debate proves my point.
so again, see y'all in elon's great big borg cube in the sky (see this is a joke, i do not think we will see each other in a borg cube and i don't think elon is evil like most here do)
@dingus you get it my man! a fire with fire approach, lol
wow, i always wondered why my OP didn't stimulate discussion in this forum (i have tried to stimulate discussion since i've been a member...) when i was notified in Jan. i only saw replies from Jan...
the fact that it seems weird for a 'maga guy' (i clearly said i was more of a maha guy).. to push back on lack of celebration after a guy who appeared on the show is poised to be in charge of the gov. agencies that were moving to put us in camps during c0vid seems equally weird to me, lol
yes, you are getting it... the point of my OP was to stimulate discussion. for some reason i didn't see replies until jan. the cryptocracy i'm sure is behind it , lol... part of my post was to give voice to the maga/ maha blowback. i am the blow back!! haha
see my other responses here that address what you wrote
