Just listening to this episode and heard Alex mention cities of gold in America...
What if this is referring to the great Mansa Musa said to be richest man to ever live. He had loads of gold and and took it and people on a trip West. The history around him is vague and it seems he was erased somewhat from history. After the trip he apparently was never heard from again.
Theres a really nice stylised documentary on him on Netflix. Only 30 mins tho.
It's called sun of the soil and is from a local perspective which is extra special imo
Hey thanks for listening!
I'm vaguely familiar with Mansa Musa - but I haven't done much research on him either.
I believe I was referring to Cibola and reports by Francisco Coronado, and the many maps that portray a large river that starts in the pacific and appear to end somewhere in Utah (near salt lake) that are dotted by large cities.
I pulled a couple links from the site that go into more detail - including my personal discovery of what I believe is a step pyramid in New Mexico.
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/area-51-a-k-a-totonteac-the-seventh-city-of-cibola.1211/
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/fernando-cort%C3%A9s-aka-moses.5378/post-99799
PHd in Mudfloodery
Hey thanks for listening!
I'm vaguely familiar with Mansa Musa - but I haven't done much research on him either.
I believe I was referring to Cibola and reports by Francisco Coronado, and the many maps that portray a large river that starts in the pacific and appear to end somewhere in Utah (near salt lake) that are dotted by large cities.
I pulled a couple links from the site that go into more detail - including my personal discovery of what I believe is a step pyramid in New Mexico.
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/area-51-a-k-a-totonteac-the-seventh-city-of-cibola.1211/
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/fernando-cort%C3%A9s-aka-moses.5378/post-99799
Thamks for replying, i really enjoyed the episode! Will check out these links
This was such a fun episode. I have been a fan of alternative history since Sylvie Ivanova's New Earth series and I'm so glad to learn about Stolen History.
Once you start looking at buildings, all sorts of odd things show up. In a recent trip to Cleveland, I saw a spiral marble staircase that would have fit at Versailles. It was in the Cuyahoga County Courthouse, and, as Jon Levi would say, completely ridiculous. https://www.clevelandart.org/art/1989.562
The information about the Mongols made me think of the Comanches in the southwest. There's a book called 'Empire of the Summer Moon' that describes their extreme prowess on horseback which sounded a lot like the army of Genhis Khan. It makes you wonder where these people learned their battle techniques, when the neighboring tribes had nothing to compare.
Thank you Greg and Alex for this great interview!
