I read an article about plasmonic photosynthesis and it sounds a lot like it is actually using light to create water plasmonic structures which would use ZPE to create ammonia for fuel. They are billing it as solar-powered synthetic fuel production and not mentioning the similarities with cold fusion research. Specifically Ken Shoulders work on EVOs / charge clusters is seemingly what they are describing as plasmonic structures.
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsfs.2014.0082
http://www.keelynet.com/shoulders/pdfs.html
This seems to be a way of utilizing ZPE without ever acknowledging the fact and maintaining control through requisite manufacturing process inherent to this flavor of ZPE tech.
I'm glad to hear Ken Shoulders mentioned and his EVO research, although the latter concept still is still elusive to me. :rolleyes:
As far as I understand, it's a phenomena that occurs during thunderstorms; perhaps the discharge part? I think he calls it sprites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEb_esUS1PQ
Shoulders was mentioned through Moray B. King, although interestingly enough, he was credited as one of the "luminaries" by one of Wilcock's incredible insider, Pete Peterson. The latter discussed Shoulders' tiny maple-seed-leaf shaped device that could fly using a state-of-the-art two-piston system for a long amount of time. He was also a big proponent for flying crafts.
So much of his research is still kept under wraps for decades, for God knows why.
PS: the odd, but funny anecdote of him and Church's Chicken is kinda awesome.
PPS: So if I'm understanding this, is this process akin to harvesting the ammonia gas harvested from a process of photosynthesis (light impacting on water molecules and splitting the constituent atoms), which can then be used as energy source? It reminds me of Sistema.bio which is composter that ferments manure and organic waste, and captures the resulting methane to use it in a kitchen stove (though I dont see why it cannot be used in canisters to run a natural-gas-powered engine vehicle (like a lot of the fork-lifts running on propane).
And SG, are you suggesting that the photosynthesis effect is actually a by-product of cold-fusion occurring taking place in the water? This is intriguing.
enjoypolo wrote: I'm glad to hear Ken Shoulders mentioned and his EVO research, although the latter concept still is still elusive to me. :rolleyes:
As far as I understand, it's a phenomena that occurs during thunderstorms; perhaps the discharge part? I think he calls it sprites.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEb_esUS1PQ
Shoulders was mentioned through Moray B. King, although interestingly enough, he was credited as one of the "luminaries" by one of Wilcock's incredible insider, Pete Peterson. The latter discussed Shoulders' tiny maple-seed-leaf shaped device that could fly using a state-of-the-art two-piston system for a long amount of time. He was also a big proponent for flying crafts.
So much of his research is still kept under wraps for decades, for God knows why.PS: the odd, but funny anecdote of him and Church's Chicken is kinda awesome.
PPS: So if I'm understanding this, is this process akin to harvesting the ammonia gas harvested from a process of photosynthesis (light impacting on water molecules and splitting the constituent atoms), which can then be used as energy source? It reminds me of Sistema.bio which is composter that ferments manure and organic waste, and captures the resulting methane to use it in a kitchen stove (though I dont see why it cannot be used in canisters to run a natural-gas-powered engine vehicle (like a lot of the fork-lifts running on propane).
And SG, are you suggesting that the photosynthesis effect is actually a by-product of cold-fusion occurring taking place in the water? This is intriguing.
Okay, I think I figured out the difference here. In the paper they are talking about plasmonic structures which relate to waves of oscillating charge on objects, but I was mistaking them for discussing plasmoids which are self-contained toroidal plasma structures which are also highly charged.
Here we have light inducing the surface plasmon fluctuations in the form of oscillating electrons on the surface:
So then we would have light creating a highly organized fluctuating electric charge in water in a small area. This charge is what would generate the plasmoids which is where the ZPE is tapped. So this then powers the reaction that takes place to generate the ammonia. It just seems to me from the way the experiment is designed it is replicating cold fusion research with an extra step to create synthetic hydrocarbon fuel by biasing the reaction to generate ammonia. Not exactly what I would want to put ZPE toward, but an excellent way to keep a fossil fuel infrastructure and associated centers of power while covering up the use of ZPE for the process by calling it solar.
shamangineer wrote: Okay, I think I figured out the difference here. In the paper they are talking about plasmonic structures which relate to waves of oscillating charge on objects, but I was mistaking them for discussing plasmoids which are self-contained toroidal plasma structures which are also highly charged.
Here we have light inducing the surface plasmon fluctuations in the form of oscillating electrons on the surface:
So then we would have light creating a highly organized fluctuating electric charge in water in a small area. This charge is what would generate the plasmoids which is where the ZPE is tapped. So this then powers the reaction that takes place to generate the ammonia. It just seems to me from the way the experiment is designed it is replicating cold fusion research with an extra step to create synthetic hydrocarbon fuel by biasing the reaction to generate ammonia. Not exactly what I would want to put ZPE toward, but an excellent way to keep a fossil fuel infrastructure and associated centers of power while covering up the use of ZPE for the process by calling it solar.
Right, so it looks very similar to what Mark LeClaire had done (or probably is still) with his relatively low-cost setup with lasers, minus the gas extraction. Although Mark claimed in the video he suffered from radiation poisoning in the process, so it's no joke.
It's all explained in an long, but astonishing aether force interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brnx1I4Jyi8
In that case, focusing on the extraction, it's kinda like studying the fruits, while ignoring the tree that originally makes it.
PPS: I may go on limb here, but isn't one of the secret ingredients in Stanley Meyer electrolyzer nitrogen? I wonder if there is something there as well. I always forget, and found it weird that almost 80% of air is nitrogen (at least thats what we learn), and yet I don't feel it's celebrated as much as other elements (just stoner thoughts, you know?)
There are some patents that mention it too (though I forget the links at the moment)
Opening a carbonated-drink bottle catalyzes the fizzing and release gas too, right? Not sure, if the analogy is right though..o_O
